Climate Change Is Science-Based, So Why The Quasi-Religious Bigotry And Vitriol?

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By writeronline

Throughout history, those who have chosen not to believe in psychic predictions of impending world doom, or of retributional accountability about to be meted out by a soon-to-return higher power; but instead, elected to maintain a healthy scepticism, have been vindicated, when predicted events failed to materialise.

Equally, in science, top marks have gone to those choosing to reject the mass acceptance of the apparently obvious; like ‘The Earth is Flat’, or, ‘The Earth is the Centre of the Universe - the Sun, Stars, and Planets revolve around it’.

The foundation for both these beliefs is still apparent today. Suspend science for a moment and look to a clear horizon. Doesn’t it look like the edge? Likewise, look up at the night sky. Doesn’t it feel like you’re at the centre? Don’t we still refer to the sun coming up, and going down, when in fact it’s our world which is turning?

My point is that whilst we accept the science, we must do so in defiance of what appears to us to be real. No news there - as humans our perception is frequently in conflict with reality.

Source: USFWS

So too, with Climate Change, which continues to polarise opinion, even as the facts surrounding it evolve and change. For example, over recent years, in the absence of scientific evidence supporting it, (coupled with contrary scientific evidence that suggests the Earth is actually cooling), fear-mongering over Global Warming has been forced to devolve into fear-mongering over the more ambiguous Climate Change.

Yet still, those of us who continue to maintain a healthy scepticism about the issue, are frequently vilified as ‘Climate Change Deniers’, in the same way that non-believers in whatever religion holds sway in any given country, are routinely denigrated by many of those who choose to believe with ‘absolute faith’ in their religion’s vision of God. But faith is not the same as science. Faith requires only itself, it has no need for proof.


At least us heretics don’t have to fret over being burned at the stake for our contrarian views. Far too much carbon emitted by a human body incinerated on an open fire. (Did you know that there’s a growing push to ban both burial and cremation of the dead? I’m told mummification ticks the most green boxes.....)

But, I digress.

 

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There is certainly a significant body of scientific evidence supporting the fact that the Earth is undergoing a sustained period of Climate Change. But it’s not a recent phenomenon. Climate Change is part of the Earth’s natural cycle, and has been present, in varying degrees of severity, since the World began. Ice Ages, anyone?

What is new, and the nub of this article, is the way in which humans are now being asked, no, demanded, not only to worship at the altar of The Undeniable Need to Combat Climate Change, but to also accept responsibility for creating the problem.

And, should we choose to disagree, being ridiculed with further Messianistic zeal, by those who claim to have ‘seen the light’.

What’s worse, those of us presently occupying the industrially developed parts of the planet are expected to pick up the tab for the cost of offsetting the atmospheric pollution legacy of generations past, as well as the emissions of Third World and developing nations in the present, via consumer cost-adding Emissions Trading Schemes (ETS), or directly, via Carbon Taxes

I believe it’s not just questionable to suggest that humans have the power to change the planet, (excepting a nuclear holocaust, I grant you), but ridiculous to believe that the shifting around of enormous sums of money, via ill-conceived Emissions Trading Schemes or Carbon Taxes, will have any impact on climate at all. Forcing the legislation may well make the world’s Greens and Climate Change True Believers feel warm all over, but I believe the planet will continue to make its own call as to whether it feels warm, or cold. Or anywhere in between.


Source: USGS/Cascades Volcano Observatory

Well, if humans aren’t responsible, who is?

Surely, recent and currently occurring extreme natural disasters throughout the world must remind us that Mother Nature is not only always in charge, but also expends immeasurably more energy than us, and as such, is responsible for more carbon emissions and atmospheric pollution, as well as literally Earth-shattering change through volcanic eruptions and earthquakes, than we as humans could possibly bring about.

And please don’t say in that preaching tone, “It’s only because of what humans have done, that Nature’s cycle is being disrupted.” In the great scheme of things, we’ve only been here five minutes. That’s just more of the quasi-religious fervour and zeal that I’m questioning. Emotive overhype that adds nothing to what deserves to be a rational debate.

First World Governments use emotive and deceptive terminology to continue the sell. For instance, when claiming that their climate change policies are about reducing carbon pollution, they’re implicitly manipulating ingrained, but these days irrelevant, fears about the life-threatening effects of atmospheric carbon pollutants, (ie carbon particles in coal dust, and sooty smoke).

Governments in developing and Third World countries aren’t concerned with hyping up ETS’s. Their populations live every day with the life-threatening risk of actual airborne carbon pollutants, resulting from older ‘dirty’ technology still in use in their worlds. But, any real steps towards effective anti-pollution legislation in developing nations will have to wait a long time, while their governments maintain focus on achieving huge increases in productive industrial output. And, as an unavoidable by-product, add global carbon emissions at a commensurate rate.

Which begs the question; What’s the point of a minority of countries extorting 'feel-good' Climate Change taxes, which can't (and, of course, aren't intended to), make any difference to the Global Atmosphere?

To me, it's like putting a teaspoon of distilled water into a polluted waterway. Nice gesture, but to what practical end?

Source: USFWS

If Carbon doesn’t mean physical airborne pollutants, what does it mean?

In reality, Emissions Trading Schemes and Carbon Tax proposals are aimed at reducing emissions of Carbon Dioxide (CO2), which, as we all know, is a gas. The gas that plants ‘breathe in’. The gas we humans emit, every time we breathe out.

But, because we know from our continued existence that Carbon Dioxide does us no harm, using the correct terminology doesn’t offer the rich vein of fear and trepidation evoked by the more manipulative short-form ‘Carbon’, in rallying calls like ‘The War on Carbon’.

Neverthless, clearly stated or not, Carbon Dioxide has been identified as the root cause of Climate Change, by large numbers of people whose hearts are no doubt in the right place. But when they wave off dissenting views on Climate Change with self-righteous statements like “It’s a no-brainer”, I’m more concerned about where their heads are at.

There's a lot more to this story.

In the interests of keeping to the point of this article, I haven’t expanded the case for more clarity and less misinformation about Carbon, CO2, and Climate Change here.

Instead, I’ve written a separate article about it, featuring science-based allegations that CO2 has been wrongly targeted as a primary cause of Climate Change. (You can find it by clicking the link below this article).

Meantime, I’m simply asking the True Believers to get off the moral high ground, and give the rest of us the courtesy of at least showing a willingness to learn from the seemingly obvious, but found-to-be-flawed beliefs of history; opening their minds to the possibility that ‘Fixing Climate Change’ is anything but a no-brainer; easing up on the self-righteous fervour and emotive overhype; and respecting the right of others to hold, and express a dissenting, even evolving, point of view.

Because we’re all in this together.

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junkseller Level 1 Commenter 14 months ago

There isn't anything wrong with skepticism, but if you really expect to put any kind of dent in the scientific consensus regarding anthropogenic global warming you will have to put up some points that actually have merit. It is funny for instance you have a photo of a volcano from the USGS but evidently failed to notice their data on CO2 emissions which says that humans emit 100x the amount that volcanoes do on an annual basis.

Of course the Earth goes through natural cyclical changes and scientists have worked hard to separate out that natural background noise from the total change. You can't just say they are wrong because you don't like their conclusion. You have to prove it scientifically. That's the way science works. The evidence is there for anyone who chooses to look at it.

Also, please keep in mind that science is separate from policy (not perfectly of course). The science of global warming doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the solution. There are many possible solutions. Don't blame scientists for some of the ridiculous commentary that takes place (on both sides).

There is absolutely no reason that moving into a new technological paradigm will be bad for us (has it ever?) There have been tremendous technological shifts in history, and yet overall, haven't we progressed? Isn't arguing that the "True Believers" are somehow going to destroy us with their carbon taxing schemes exactly the sort of fear-mongering you are supposedly against?

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Stump Parrish Level 2 Commenter 14 months ago

Well stated junkseller.

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writeronline Hub Author 14 months ago

Hi junkseller, thanks for your thoughtful response.(And hello to you too, Stump Parrish).

To respond to a couple of your points; I'm not criticising scientists, but rather those people, including purely politically-driven policymakers, whose real scientific understanding is likely as shallow as mine, but who nevertheless, engage in (to use your words) "the ridiculous commentary that takes place".

It's not cynical (not to me anyway) to feel that just because some people choose to take the moral high ground, and dismiss or patronise the views of others, doesn't make them right. Strong opinions and strident voices are not a reliable indicator of superior knowledge; but only of the ego-driven need to suppress discussion, and impose a point of view. That's the essence of my article, really.

On your closing point about moving into a "new technological paradigm" never having been "bad for us", I'd have to say that to me, that argument is as flawed as you feel mine to be. Through your statement that our progress has come through "tremendous technological shifts in history". Bear with me....

One, technological progress is a function of the need to improve an unsatisfactory status quo. If there were no legacy of carbon pollution, resulting from imperfect, though improving, technology over hundreds of years, we wouldn't be having to fix it now. So one could argue(academically I know..) that our progress has in fact turned out to be very (your words again) "bad for us".

Two, many of these "tremendous technological shifts in history", are not yet apparent in some of the world's largest economies. Any 'new paradigm' in Third world and developing countries is likely to be only a catch-up to technology whose pollution effects the First World is attempting to discard, improve, or regulate as part of the fight against Climate Change.

Finally, (from your closing para) I have not said, or even inferred that "the 'True Believers' are going to destroy us with their carbon taxing schemes". What I have expressed, is a real concern that people in developed countries will be (unfairly) put at serious economic risk, through schemes that cannot solve the problem globally, because the world's technology is not at the same level of 'cleanliness', for want of a better word.

Since we can't divide the atmosphere into pockets that First World consumers and /or Carbon Tax-payers have paid to clean up, and keep those quarantined from the 'still dirty' pockets above less developed countries, how are these ETS's or Carbon Taxes expected to make any real difference to the global climate situation?

This is where my concern lies, because the often-heard response (from the "True Believers") is, "We have to start somewhere." That's perfectly acceptable as a statement of altruism (or quasi-religious fervour...), but it doesn't stand up to any rational analysis.

Not to me, anyway...

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aguasilver Level 6 Commenter 14 months ago

Not going to take up a whole lot of space commenting, but you may take a look at my hub:

http://hubpages.com/hub/Copenhagen-trick-or-treaty

Which I published months ago and explains the part that the Club of Rome play in this scenario, especially the bit where they explain that in order to achieve their global agenda, they needed to 'invent' a world wide threat that would force folk to accept global control...

Just a thought.

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junkseller Level 1 Commenter 14 months ago

Yes, my paradigm shift is definitely flawed in that there is no guarantee it will work out well. I really was more of offering a hopeful possibility. And I guess in my mind I was really focusing on one technological shift: the automobile. The situation we are in now seems like being back in 1900 and somehow the horse industry has completely sabotaged the auto industry, which looking backwards would seem completely ridiculous. And I agree to some extent, looking backward we can argue that the auto world we have built has some serious flaws. BUT, if we were back in 1900 and had a vision of turning the world into a car world, and then were able to peek into the future, I think we would say that we had been incredibly successful. If we define success as attaining a certain vision, generally I think we do pretty well, though that vision may in itself have flaws.

I’m weak on policy, so I probably shouldn’t say much about it, and the rest of this post is pretty much going to be straight opinion (as opposed to an opinion that has at least a little evidence). I suppose my point about the paradigm shift was that I tend to believe that if we were to truly embrace a future of sustainable energy and were to cast off our fossil fuel realities that we would end up doing just fine. Any pain that comes I generally think will come because we have held on too long to the old unsustainable technologies.

The comparison between now and 1900 breaks down in some very important ways. First, the auto and fossil fuel industries are sophisticated and disperse; sophisticated in that they are complex, advanced technologies and disperse in that they rely upon huge chunks of area (road networks, acquisition of raw materials, etc.). The advantage we have today is that sustainability in many cases can be less sophisticated and more local. So, whereas the auto and fossil fuel industries rely upon an advanced technological base with sophisticated infrastructure and highly trained workforce, sustainable technologies do not (or they don’t have to). This is an important point I think, because it means that everyone, regardless of their technological status, can begin deploying sustainable technologies immediately and so completely skip the “catch-up” phase.

I think that we focus far too much on advanced technologies regarding alternative energy (and far too little attention to social issues at all). Advanced technologies (like high-tech batteries and electric cars) to me anyway seem to be more about prolonging the current regime than changing it. Also, the advanced technologies aren’t appropriately transferable to less developed nations. How we build cities and buildings and socially organize ourselves is as important as how we provide energy, but get relatively little attention.

Ultimately, I am skeptical as I think you are that the current global economic policies will work. I am equally doubtful that advanced technology is the solution (It has its place of course). If I had to put forth a solution I think it might look something like Venture Capitalism, where instead of exporting technology (and policies) to less developed nations, we would export capacity; by helping them to establish the education, skills and industry for them to build their own sustainable future. You see these types of things happening but they are on a very small scale. This sustainable living venture capitalism activity could be a significant and valuable component of developed economies (and provide valuable research and development for domestic markets as well). That’s my theory any way (albeit a weak one).

You’ve definitely inspired me to think a bit harder on this issue. I have not paid enough attention to the international ramifications of global warming policy, which I have realized as I tried to think about it.

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writeronline Hub Author 14 months ago

Hi aguasilver, thanks for your comment. I took a look at your article, you've obviously got a clear perspective on the issue, and you express it well. I'm not sure I personally buy into it; but I certainly respect your right to express it. BTW, unlike you, I'm still at the atheist stage of my life; haven't seen anything to make me want to change.

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aguasilver Level 6 Commenter 14 months ago

"I'm still at the atheist stage of my life; haven't seen anything to make me want to change."

No fear, caterpillars often look at butterfly's and cannot understand how they fly.

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writeronline Hub Author 14 months ago

Hi junkseller, more interesting thoughts from you, thanks. I'm flattered that I've inspired you to think more about the international ramifications of global warming policy. I think your term, 'Fallacy of Homogeneity' about scientists(In your Hub, 'The Global Warming Gauntlet')is your guide. As I said in my comment to that article, it nicely sums up my basic concern: the world is not sufficiently 'homogenous / as one' for geo-politically localised ETSs and Carbon Taxes to be either fair, or effective. Your auto v horse analogy also supports this; as we in the Western world drive ever more technologically advanced vehicles, and work towards 'greening' their emissions, a huge percentage of the world's population continues to ride donkeys, and work animals in the fields... how we fast track our way to parity is definitely worthy of more thought than the knee-jerk action of First World self-flagellation through Carbon taxes and ETS's.

As you say, the advantage we have, is that we can choose to assist Third world nations by skipping the development phases we've been through and simply moving to clean technology 'immediately'. I also agree, we should look at getting off the path of technologically improving what we've developed, and start looking at simpler, lower cost / impact options in our own world.

eg, where I live, in response to decades of drought, the State government created an enormously complex, and technologically advanced water grid, involving desalination, increasing dam capacity, and a pipeline network measuring hundreds of kilometres, to shift water 'to where it's most needed'. So wondrous, it even won an international award..

The cost of this, of course, is borne by taxpayers.

Since completion, the drought has been eliminated by the largest floods ever recorded in the area, resulting in overfull capacity in every water storage facility, plus all the rivers and lakes. The new infrastructure is not used, because it's not needed. But it still needs to be paid for. And will, for 50 years..

Meantime, because of the need to concentrate budget on this one huge project, the Government cancelled a previous scheme, in which every household was to have been eligible for a subsidy against the cost of installing its own rainwater tank. No infrastructure required, the (naturally renewable)resource is collected at source, and stored at the point of consumption. As you say, solutions don't necessarily need to be the most sophisticated, nor the most expensive... Just the right ones.

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La Papillon 14 months ago

Very interesting writeronline ;) I understand your meaning and points.

A vote up and a follow for you.

Cheers, Louise ;)

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aguasilver Level 6 Commenter 14 months ago

I'm not sure how much time you have spent in the rest of the world, I know that overall only 12% of Americans own a passport, and those I have spoken to will happily state "Americas so big and beautiful, why would I want to go abroad" and I know there is truth in that also.

Having spent a lot of time in 'developing' countries, I have a healthy respect for their backwardness, for they (the folk who live there) have lived as they live for centuries, and frankly distrust technology, even if they stand in awe of it.

Mostly they are intrinsically happy, if they are not being starved to death or suppressed by despots (funded by us)because they are simple people.... very uncomplicated and with very low expectations compared to us.

Equality can only ever be achieved by the northern hemisphere populace, who control 90% of the worlds wealth, yet represent 5% of the worlds population, surrendering 95% of their wealth to be used to balance the world status.

So effectively, we could solve the supposed global warming problem by simply redistributing the wealth we have, and then we could ALL ride donkeys and nobody would have cars to pollute anything.

Hands up who wants to go first in living on 5% of what you presently have.....

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writeronline Hub Author 14 months ago

Hi, La Papillon, thanks for your comment, and the vote up. Cheers to you too.

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Ralph Deeds Level 6 Commenter 13 months ago

You could be correct, but you are espousing the view of a tiny minority of climate scientists. As a non-scientist I must agree with what I've read about the prevailing view of climate scientists. Nobody knows for sure what the future holds, but scientific evidence appears to me to say that it's only prudent to do what we can to reduce the volumne of greenhouse gases we are increasingly pumping into the earth's atmosphere.

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writeronline Hub Author 13 months ago

Ralph Deeds, thanks for taking the time to take a look at this.

Re your comment: "...it's only prudent to do what we can to reduce the volumne of greenhouse gases we are increasingly pumping...."

My problem continues to be the definition of 'we'.

Same as my concern about the 'we' who will be economically disadvantaged by the imposition of country-specific (vs world) Carbon taxes. The global atmosphere won't change until the world unites to change it.

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Ralph Deeds Level 6 Commenter 13 months ago

For me the science is becoming clear. The problem now is one of educating a world-wide public and cooperative international actions and institutions to deal with the problem before it's too late to avoid difficult and costly problems.

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lime light power 13 months ago

100% agree with Ralph... I wrote a hug on the topic of addressing global warming from a risk management perspective rather than from who is right or wrong - I think it's good value added for those who are interested in learning more.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Global-Warming-Risk-Manage

caswell.dw 13 months ago

For a start the term denier is a veiled reference to the Holocaust. As such, anyone serious about this topic should eschew this term. It usually is favored by people with nothing to add to the debate except slogans and abuse. Therefore you stop reading when you see the term used.

Secondly, the whole issue was deliberately politicized by the IPCC. They have always published the political summary before the scientific report is ready. Why?

3rdly, CO2 does not have enough volume in the atmosphere to heat the global temperature. CO2 does not retain all heat. Once it reaches its maximum, it emits the heat. It cannot absorb and emit enough heat. Compared to the ocean it is far too small. However, the ocean being vast by volume, area and weight can aborb and emit heat enough to affect the temperature. Water can be solid (ice), liquid (water), vapor(steam) or vapor(clouds). It is the perfect compound for transferring heat energy because it is still a stable compound regardless of form. CO2 is a gas or at temperatures below ?56.4 °C (?69.5 °F) and pressures below 5.13 atm (the triple point), CO2 changes from a solid to a gas with no intervening liquid form. In other words, CO2 does not have the structure to be making subtle changes in temperature.

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Ralph Deeds Level 6 Commenter 13 months ago

That sounds to me like pseudo scientific gobbledegook.

In my experience global warming skepticism is often part of a syndrome of "conservative" beliefs including right to life, anti-gun control, anti-affirmative action, anti-tax, anti-government, anti-gay rights, anti-environmental protection and so forth.

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junkseller Level 1 Commenter 13 months ago

@caswell.dw

Global warming is a political issue. The IPCC is a hybrid organization - scientific AND political. They review and disseminate science. That is what they do.

CO2 does not heat anything. Nor has anyone claimed that it does. More CO2 in the atmosphere means more heat is stopped and sent back to be absorbed by the system (such as the oceans as you say).

"denier" is a term used for someone who completely denies any and all science having to do with global warming. If they really are offended by the term, I'd be happy to call them something else. Any suggestions?

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Ralph Deeds Level 6 Commenter 13 months ago

Completely wrong. The effect of greenhouse gases has been scientifically established. At any given time the climate is a product of natural forces beyond our control (sun activity, volcanoes, etc) and man-made factors (greenhouse gases from various sources). The natural forces may either accelerate the warming trend caused by man, neutralize the warming effect of man's activities or it might overwhelm it and bring cooling or even a new ice age. This is unpredictable. However, the effect of increased greehouse gases is quite predictable. Seems to me prudent to take reasonable steps to reduce our output of greenhouse gases.

caswell.dw 13 months ago

Junkseller, this whole scam is predicated on the computer model proving CO2 is a 3x forcing factor of heating in the atmosphere. If you are going to spread this bullshit, you should at least understand what you are talking about.

your persistent use of the term denier proves you are a lightweight of no consequence.

Ralph, the teory of greenhouse gases was established over 100 years ago when they did not understand that the earth radiates heat as well was absorbs it. The energy tables show that the greenhouse theory is untenable today. So please feel free to join the 21st century with your knowledge.

You admit you know nothing about science and that you cannot understand even basic science. That is fine. But to say that trillions of dollars should be spent because you don't know what you are talking about is an absurd admission.

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Ralph Deeds Level 6 Commenter 13 months ago

Your view is that of a tiny minority of scientists. I didn't "admit I know nothing about science and that I cannot understand even basic science." Your inaccurate characterization of my comment is an indication of dishonesty on your part and an ignorance of climate science. BYW, what are your scientific credentials? Are you a climate scientist? Are you by chance a supporter of the Tea Party?

And how do you feel about gay rights, gun control, President Obama's birth place and the role of government in our society?

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junkseller Level 1 Commenter 13 months ago

caswell.dw

The whole "scam" as you call it is predicated on a MOUNTAIN of peer-reviewed science which includes thousands of models, and the work of untold numbers of scientists over several decades. Part of why it is considered such a strong theory is because there are MULTIPLE lines of evidence which support it. It isn't perfect. Science never is. There is still much work to be done.

Science isn't disproven (or proven) by simply saying so. It is proven/disproven by peer-reviewed scientific evidence. As soon as the disbelievers publish a peer reviewed scientific article which disproves the currently accepted science OR puts forth an alternative theory to explain the observed phenomena I will happily read it.

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